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Posted on Jun 23, 2009, 6:43 PM

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Posted on Jun 23, 2009, 11:06 PM

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Me too and googling silverhighbreed has found positive reviews elsewhere.

Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 7:41 AM

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oh no ~ they mention 'burn in' and we ALL know that cant possibly be true Stick out tongue

 

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Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 9:31 AM

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With these silver hi breed interconnects - it says that they have a 'twin layer of silver braids' an excellent protection against EMI/RFI. But i was only aware that copper mesh screens were the best and main use to block out EMI/RFI in most manufacturers cables, can anyone clarify? Cheers
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Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 9:49 AM

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Hi Paul. According to my engineering buddy the best way to reduce RFI and EMI is to braid a cable. This works for any cable and the longer the cable the more obvious the benefit. I asked about the science behind this, but did not understand the answer. I am trying to persuade him to come onto the forum. But he once took 15 minutes to tie one shoe lace. So getting him to do anything can involve months of preparation.

Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 9:56 AM

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Lol, looks like we will have to wait a month for a definative answer. I thought that the cable wires themselves had to be braided to reduce emi/rfi and not a layer of braid around them unless of course this was copper, but what i was wondering is if silver does the same thing?
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Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 10:15 AM

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I have just reread the specs and see what you mean, the silver braid is round the copper. To be honest with you I like the look of the cable because of its construction and belt and baces attitude. It has copper, silver, braiding, thick sheething and ferrite cores, all of which are supposed to produce beneficial results. Add in a very reasonable price as I would need about 50cm, so about £25 or so and it looks a very good deal.

Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 1:56 PM

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Along similar lines, I bought one of these to give it a try and it is absolutely superb and for £25 delivered is quite outstandinig value for money. Also the guy has 100% feedback and a money back guarantee so it's a no-brainer. Only slight drawback is the 0.5 length cable is not as flexible as some.
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Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 2:06 PM

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Paulthefilmfan:
With these silver hi breed interconnects - it says that they have a 'twin layer of silver braids' an excellent protection against EMI/RFI. But i was only aware that copper mesh screens were the best and main use to block out EMI/RFI in most manufacturers cables, can anyone clarify? Cheers

 

Hi Paul

As IDC said the best way to reduce 'noise' from the signal itself is via a braid (The more wires and the tighter the braid the better the result). Braided cables also repel airbourne 'EMI'.

All other cables use 'shielding' to repel EMI and some use 'ferrite filters' to repel noise (Which looks like they have some on the cables in question too)

However, these are the first cables ive ever known that have a braid OVER the signal wires (Actually seperate to them from what I can tell). How well they work I have no clue as its a new one on me (And doesnt actually make sense to me). 

Im a hugh fan of braided cables as I use them on all my av and hifi equipment (To fantastic effect)

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Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 2:14 PM

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idc:
I have just reread the specs and see what you mean, the silver braid is round the copper. To be honest with you I like the look of the cable because of its construction and belt and baces attitude. It has copper, silver, braiding, thick sheething and ferrite cores, all of which are supposed to produce beneficial results. Add in a very reasonable price as I would need about 50cm, so about £25 or so and it looks a very good deal.


Cool  for the price it,s a no brainer, i have 2 sets and other on the way.cdp to pre and pre to power.


bass can only be described as deep and tunefull , there is no harshness, i was pre conditioned with silver that they would be bright, not so with these.


if these were in fancy packing and at a dealers put  a 1 or a 2 on the  front of the price.


they have to be coming out of china  at this  price, direct, no middleman, hence the silly price.


as pointed out they have recieved rave reviews from forum members  at another site.


 ( that i cant mention )


the speaker cable is also rated very highly, and you get a free t shirt with every order, you to can look like a geek in asda ! 

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Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 3:46 PM

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aliEnRIK:

Paulthefilmfan:
With these silver hi breed interconnects - it says that they have a 'twin layer of silver braids' an excellent protection against EMI/RFI. But i was only aware that copper mesh screens were the best and main use to block out EMI/RFI in most manufacturers cables, can anyone clarify? Cheers

 

Hi Paul

As IDC said the best way to reduce 'noise' from the signal itself is via a braid (The more wires and the tighter the braid the better the result). Braided cables also repel airbourne 'EMI'.

All other cables use 'shielding' to repel EMI and some use 'ferrite filters' to repel noise (Which looks like they have some on the cables in question too)

However, these are the first cables ive ever known that have a braid OVER the signal wires (Actually seperate to them from what I can tell). How well they work I have no clue as its a new one on me (And doesnt actually make sense to me). 

Im a hugh fan of braided cables as I use them on all my av and hifi equipment (To fantastic effect)


I suppose it don't matter too much about the silver screen if the cable have ferrites attached to them. It's just that i have never heard of silver being used as 'screening' to stop EMI/RFI where as copper screening has proven properties and it works. They do look good thought and i am tempted to try them as well as the other ones suggested above.

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Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 8:21 PM

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Just to upset the applecart a TAD more...

 

I had the Silver High Breeds and indeed they are a very very good cable.

Theres another though that I changed to that does what the SHB does, but better.
And its under a fiver.

Hitachi LC-OFC interconnect.

Cheap as chips, shouldnt do what it does - but it does.

Compared it to other highly thought of cables (including Nordost Blue Heaven) and its the best I've heard.

 

I bought it off a fellow Forum member (From another Forum) so cant mention it here (Fair enough!) and unfortunately I dont have an ebay link.

I'm sure though its there if you look for it.

 

At a fiver its worth a punt!

Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 8:23 PM

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Gazjam:

Just to upset the applecart a TAD more...

 

I had the Silver High Breeds and indeed they are a very very good cable.

Theres another though that I changed to that does what the SHB does, but better.
And its under a fiver.

Hitachi LC-OFC interconnect.

Cheap as chips, shouldnt do what it does - but it does.

Compared it to other highly thought of cables (including Nordost Blue Heaven) and its the best I've heard.

 

I bought it off a fellow Forum member (From another Forum) so cant mention it here (Fair enough!) and unfortunately I dont have an ebay link.

I'm sure though its there if you look for it.

 

At a fiver its worth a punt!

 

I never liked nordosts 'blue heaven' anyways. Far too 'bass light' for my taste

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Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 9:55 PM

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Spacehopper:
Along similar lines, I bought one of these to give it a try and it is absolutely superb and for £25 delivered is quite outstandinig value for money. Also the guy has 100% feedback and a money back guarantee so it's a no-brainer. Only slight drawback is the 0.5 length cable is not as flexible as some.


I've just ordered some of these after reading up. Can't go wrong really - if I don't like them I'll send them back.
I'd like to hear an ASR emitter II.

Posted on Jun 24, 2009, 10:42 PM

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There is an interesting article here http://www.atlascables.com/index.php?id=71 about cable conductor types. Apparently the Hitachi LC-OFC is their process to produce oxygen free copper. Further down the article is a piece about silver plated copper, which does not get a good review from Atlas due to emphasis on treble and a lack of bass. The Silver High Breed cable is silver braided about copper, so with the ferrite beads that is maybe to overcome those problems.


This has been a great thread, pointing the way to lesser known cable makers, using known technology, to make high quality cables at less than known brand prices. There is so little on the Silver High Breed that if you google it you find this thread!

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