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Tarquinh and others

At the end of the day it is all about enjoying you music films or what ever, if you honestly believe that spending large amount of money on power cables really does improve the sound and picture quality then that’s great. 

The only thing I say is that (presumable) by just adding an expensive power cable to the front end of your equipment does very little to the overall enjoyment because surely the equipment will have front end filters, etc? 

Just one question how do you change the power cable to say a Panasonic DVD or BluRay when they use those terrible two pin plugs that are pushed into the back of the unit? Surely the best way would to have a hard wired power cable and that would only be one soldered connection and not three or four push or screwed connections.

 

The biggest failure of any cable is the joint, less joints less problems.

 

Have fun.

 

Red Dwarf:

JoelSim:

All I can say Red Dwarf and Tarquinh, is that you should try it sometime. Get on the Bay and get yourself a 2nd hand Nordost, attach it to your CDP and if you don't like it, sell it on for the same money. I'd be willing to bet you would hear what we've heard. No, it's not a seismic shift, but there is an air and depth on my system that wasn't there before (and the comparison was made against another branded mains cable rather than a cheapo kettle lead). A very nice refinement of the sound.

 

I'm also willing to bet that if you were tested you wouldn't be able to differentiate between your Nordost and a 99p kettle lead.

Because so far nobody in the world has managed to do it.

 

 

Mains cables have ALREADY been measurably proven to make a difference

Power Kords

Illustrations for above pdf

The fact you have upto now had absolutey NO proof otherwise goes some way to show just HOW blindsighted you are

Also ~ I never myself believed it until I tried them for myself which also pushes a stick up the a*se of  'placebo'

aliEnRIK:

 

Mains cables have ALREADY been measurably proven to make a difference

Power Kords

Illustrations for above pdf

The fact you have upto now had absolutey NO proof otherwise goes some way to show just HOW blindsighted you are

Also ~ I never myself believed it until I tried them for myself which also pushes a stick up the a*se of  'placebo'

Firstly placebo works on everyone, including you, and secondly those tests aren't about sound quality at all, they're about someone trying to wriggle out of an ASA adjudication, as you well know. You've posted them a number of times, why is that?

Red Dwarf:

aliEnRIK:

 

Mains cables have ALREADY been measurably proven to make a difference

Power Kords

Illustrations for above pdf

The fact you have upto now had absolutey NO proof otherwise goes some way to show just HOW blindsighted you are

Also ~ I never myself believed it until I tried them for myself which also pushes a stick up the a*se of  'placebo'

Firstly placebo works on everyone, including you, and secondly those tests aren't about sound quality at all, they're about someone trying to wriggle out of an ASA adjudication, as you well know. You've posted them a number of times, why is that?

 

Because you cant seem to get it in your head that the results have been 'measured'

Plus ~ I like laughing at people like you 

 

And your so completely and utterly wrong there. Placebos work when you BELIEVE theyll work. I didnt...........

aliEnRIK:

Placebos work when you BELIEVE theyll work. I didnt...........

Like I said, I love these fantasy threads.

Anybody see the Mitchell & Webb homeopathy sketch last night? Very funny and pertinant to this discussion, I thought.

Don't really see what there is to talk about here, buy, try, return if it doesn't make a difference that you can justify.

Simple, the companies doing this would be out of business in two minutes if it was a load of tosh....Fact.

Burn in works on the electron level, it is an established fact with the major manufactures (Elna, Sanyo, Auden, Rel, Vishay (to name a few) who have done development research and advise on burn in periods.
i.e Sanyo Os-Con SG Solid Electrolyte Series... "it is recommended that the OS-CON has over 200 hours to burn in to reach it's full potential"

And they are correct, as I have found out by doing so myself over many years!

I can also confirm the same improvements on cable burn in. Don't be ready to dismiss things until you have acquired an in depth, detailed knowledge. It is best to keep an open mind otherwise it hinders the learning process. IMHO

trevor79:

Don't really see what there is to talk about here, buy, try, return if it doesn't make a difference that you can justify.

Simple, the companies doing this would be out of business in two minutes if it was a load of tosh....Fact.

You mean like the homeopathy industry would be out of business if their "medicines" didn't work?

I just watched the Mitchell and Webb homeopathy sketch. Very funny. It's available on Iplayer.

Saying the word "fact" doesn't elevate it from just your opinion BTW.

Red Dwarf:

trevor79:

Don't really see what there is to talk about here, buy, try, return if it doesn't make a difference that you can justify.

Simple, the companies doing this would be out of business in two minutes if it was a load of tosh....Fact.

You mean like the homeopathy industry would be out of business if their "medicines" didn't work?

I just watched the Mitchell and Webb homeopathy sketch. Very funny. It's available on Iplayer.

Saying the word "fact" doesn't elevate it from just your opinion BTW.

Burn in works on the electron level, it is an established fact with the major manufactures (Elna, Sanyo, Auden, Rel, Vishay (to name a few) who have done development research and advise on burn in periods.
i.e Sanyo Os-Con SG Solid Electrolyte Series... "it is recommended that the OS-CON has over 200 hours to burn in to reach it's full potential"

And I suppose these Major Manufacturers don't know what they are doing either, despite hardly any of your electronic purchases working unless you had their components inside them!

Now who's findings do I follow.....Sanyo's and others or yours?

Red Dwarf:

aliEnRIK:

Placebos work when you BELIEVE theyll work. I didnt...........

Like I said, I love these fantasy threads.

 

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trevor79:

Red Dwarf:

trevor79:

Don't really see what there is to talk about here, buy, try, return if it doesn't make a difference that you can justify. Simple, the companies doing this would be out of business in two minutes if it was a load of tosh....Fact.

You mean like the homeopathy industry would be out of business if their "medicines" didn't work?

I just watched the Mitchell and Webb homeopathy sketch. Very funny. It's available on Iplayer.

Saying the word "fact" doesn't elevate it from just your opinion BTW.

Burn in works on the electron level, it is an established fact with the major manufactures (Elna, Sanyo, Auden, Rel, Vishay (to name a few) who have done development research and advise on burn in periods. i.e Sanyo Os-Con SG Solid Electrolyte Series... "it is recommended that the OS-CON has over 200 hours to burn in to reach it's full potential" And I suppose these Major Manufacturers don't know what they are doing either, despite hardly any of your electronic purchases working unless you had their components inside them! Now who's findings do I follow.....Sanyo's and others or yours?

The Sanyo Os-Con  is a capacitor, not a cable. Elna also make capacitors. Comparing burn in with capacitors to burn in with cables is invalid.

"Burn in works on the electron level" FACT

Applies to current paths and signal paths.

Regards

trevor79:

"Burn in works on the electron level" FACT

Applies to current paths and signal paths.

Regards

Wrong, I'm afraid. Fact.

Tarquinh:

My feelings, too. It's the HiFi equivalent of the Discworld novels.

Nah! Discworld makes more sense.

trevor79:

Simple, the companies doing this would be out of business in two minutes if it was a load of tosh....Fact.

Try telling the cosmetics firms that

visionary:

Tarquinh:

My feelings, too. It's the HiFi equivalent of the Discworld novels.

Nah! Discworld makes more sense.

trevor79:

Simple, the companies doing this would be out of business in two minutes if it was a load of tosh....Fact.

Try telling the cosmetics firms that

Not to mention the religions