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Faulty Roksan Kandy LIII amp - anyone else?

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Posted on Jul 03, 2009, 6:07 PM

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Re: Faulty Roksan Kandy LIII amp - anyone else?

tractorboy:

I don't know, but I would imagine they're well within their rights to repair rather than replace.

Perhaps it would be useful to email Roksan with the serial number and ask them to confirm whether this amp is part of the dodgy batch which they refer to at that start of this thread? As a Kandy owner, I'd certainly be interested to know.



Got a reply from Roksan quote "It's quite possible that the volume pot may be faulty in your Kandy, in which case it may need replacing" end quote. My serial No. is 0122814 so if yours is anywhere near that then you may need to worry a bit.
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Posted on Jul 03, 2009, 11:17 PM

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Hmmm, 0122922. Perhaps if Henley are still keeping an eye on this thread, they might share with us the serial numbers of the faulty batch which they mentioned at the start of the thread?
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Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 12:22 PM

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Re: Faulty Roksan Kandy LIII amp - anyone else?

This is turning into a nightmare.Took the amp to the post office today but they could not take it as the address Audio Affair gave me is not in their database and so they could not provide insurance/compensation cover.So not only do I have to pay for postage costs (assuming I get a good address) I`ve also had a wasted journey to the post office and more time has been added to the repair process.
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Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 1:44 PM

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After A Reasonable Time


If a fault appears after that nebulous "reasonable time" has elapsed,
don't despair. If it's in the first six months, and it's not because of
fair wear and tear, accidental damage or misuse, then the retailer must
still repair or replace the item. If he demurs, he has to prove the
item wasn't faulty in the first place, or that it couldn't be expected
to last that long. Often he'll choose to replace rather than repair it.


If more than six months have gone by, things change. You might still
get a repair or replacement, but now you'll have to prove that the item
was faulty when you bought it if the retailer disputes your claim.


Where delivery costs are involved, the retailer has to pay them, and
repairs must be carried out within a "reasonable" time. If it's
impossible to replace or repair the item, you can claim a refund of
some, or possibly even all, of the purchase price (depending on how
much the item has been used). However, if the fault causes personal
harm or damage (a fire, for instance), then it falls under "product
liability," which is the manufacturer's responsibility. First, though,
go to the retailer; if they're unable tell you who the manufacturer is,
then the liability becomes theirs.

  http://www.consumerrightsexpert.co.uk/FaultyGoods.html

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Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 2:02 PM

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Re: Faulty Roksan Kandy LIII amp - anyone else?

hi fi newbie:

After A Reasonable Time


Where delivery costs are involved, the retailer has to pay them,


  http://www.consumerrightsexpert.co.uk/FaultyGoods.html



not sure how accurate that last bit is - my understanding is that the store is responsible for delivery costs back to manufacturer which they aren't allowed to pass on to you but not for you to return goods to them unless they arrived faulty and you refuse the goods and then its their resposability to collect them.


in my opinion its unreasonable to expect a retailer to pay for you to get the goods back to them after you have accepted them

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Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 2:17 PM

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Well firstly it seems like the above was not a definitive answer as it depends what type of warranty there is on the product. However I hardly consider it unreasonable you formed a contract with the retailer, that product is meant to last a minimum of 12 months, in reality of course this is a swindle and the minimum period of cover is actually a lot longer, but nevertheless, this guy has paid over 700.00 for an amp which is already on the blink and they are now insisting he incurs the carriage? that to me is unacceptable. As a gesture of good will alone, I would think they should incur the cost.

The one thing I would say though is if you use something like interparcel.com, it's not going to cost you 30.00, it's going to cost quite a bit less than that.

 

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Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 2:31 PM

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Sending Faulty Items Back


Legally you are not obliged to send faulty goods back to the vendor at your own cost. If an item is big and heavy or awkward to return then ask the seller to come and collect it. This only applies if you have recently bought the goods.


legal answer from same website you quoted.


your contract says they will repair and then if not replace which they have offered to do - the only way this guy has an argument which i think is a very strong one is that after 6 months its your responsability to prove the item was faulty at the point of sale which he can do as roksan have admitted faults on these items so he could demand a full refund quoting roksan as source which is what i would do.


minimum period of responsability for retailes is infact 24 months under european law but thats a legal battle


no such thing as good will in sales when it means you will be making a loss - why should the shop end up out of pocket same as why should the buyer but don't think you will find a manufacturer refunding it


 


 

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Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 5:51 PM

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It`s at the stage now where I just want the b****y thing fixed and am prepared to pay the postage if I could get an accurate address to send it to.If you put Audio Affairs` postcode into the address finder on the Royal Mail website 3 pages come up but no mention of AA unless they trade under a different name which would be odd.
I am getting frustrated and a bit worried. Wonder if Roksan would allow me to return the amp directly to them for repair,worth a try do you think?
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Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 1:02 PM

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Re: Faulty Roksan Kandy LIII amp - anyone else?

There is absolutely no way we would ever expect a customer to pay for the return of a faulty item. If a dealer sells product via the internet then we beleive they are liable for it's collection should there be any issue at a later date - That's why the dealer has a profit margin, it's called customer service.

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Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 5:47 PM

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hi fi newbie:

The one thing I would say though is if you use something like interparcel.com, it's not going to cost you 30.00, it's going to cost quite a bit less than that.

 



I live in N.Ireland which cuts the options down a lot,tried interparcel and came to £34 including insurance.

Now that Laurence from Henley is aware of the situation things might change,I have no beef with Henley or Roksan as they have not known of the situation until now.
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Posted on Jul 19, 2009, 6:00 PM

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Update
Amp has now been repaired and is back in my system and sounding good. I would like to publicly thank Lawrence and Kate at Henley Designs for stepping in and sorting this out for me.
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Posted on Aug 17, 2009, 5:19 PM

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Hrrrrrgggggggnnnnnn!!!!! Arghhhhhhh!!!!


Yes, my Kandy has suffered the same fate. Roksan has informed me that I can return this direct to them, but I have not got an answer on who is paying for shipping / how it is paid for.


If Basshound or Laurence at Henley see this, could you fill me in?


Presumably it also needs some kind of insurance to cover possible loss or damage in transit?

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Posted on Aug 17, 2009, 5:26 PM

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Why don't you just call Laurence?
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Posted on Aug 17, 2009, 6:12 PM

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Re: Faulty Roksan Kandy LIII amp - anyone else?

tractorboy:

Hrrrrrgggggggnnnnnn!!!!! Arghhhhhhh!!!!


Yes, my Kandy has suffered the same fate. Roksan has informed me that I can return this direct to them, but I have not got an answer on who is paying for shipping / how it is paid for.


If Basshound or Laurence at Henley see this, could you fill me in?


Presumably it also needs some kind of insurance to cover possible loss or damage in transit?



Sorry to hear your amp has gone faulty,suggest you e-mail Lawrence at Henley (address on the Henley website) or phone as Andrew suggests.I found Henley to be more than helpful,my amp was collected,repaired and returned within a week at no cost to me.Incidently my amp now sounds better than before the fault appeared so you may also get an improvement after repair.
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Posted on Aug 17, 2009, 6:17 PM

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Doh! Just seen the number. Thanks guys. I'll let you know how things progress. This is going to be a real pain in the backside, since I'm out of the house all day every day with work commitments at the moment....
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