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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 1:01 PM

3D

Hello,


Having decided to do a demo of projectors around £1000 and 42" TVs as a combined replacement for my current 36" CRT, I then suddenly thought "what about 3D"?


I've not read that much about it, and I'm not totally convinced I want it, but now I'm hearing reports of existing 2D films being turned into 3D, and people having a reasonable experience at the pictures, I don't want to buy 2D displays now only to find next year all the displays are 3D.


So I'm wondering would all the 3D technologies being touted need specialist displays? And also do people think that this will be worthwhile and in the mainstream in the near future?


Any opinions much appreciated.


Thanks, Ian. 


 

Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 1:49 PM

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The answers to your two questions are yes you'll need a new display, and who knows how worthwhile it will be.

We'll have a special feature on 3D TV in the December issue, on sale next week.

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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 1:55 PM

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3D will work quite well for animated stuff, but do you really want to see 'classic' films in 3D? I know I don't.


3D has failed 3 times before......

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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 2:18 PM

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It certainly 'works' with stuff newly made in 3D, but I shudder at the thought of old movies being 3D'd – it's just as horrendous a thought as that attempt a few years back to 'colorise' black and white movies.
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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 2:39 PM

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Andrew Everard:
It certainly 'works' with stuff newly made in 3D, but I shudder at the thought of old movies being 3D'd – it's just as horrendous a thought as that attempt a few years back to 'colorise' black and white movies.

YEAH! Leave our Laurel and Hardy alone!

You're right about retro-wossnaming old movies into 3D, I mean, who wants to see something like The Creature from the Black Lagoon in 3D?

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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 2:41 PM

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Surely it was made in old-tech 3D...
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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 2:45 PM

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Oh you're too clever for me Mr E. You're also right, I saw it in the original 3D at the Barbican about 12 years ago I think. Interesting, although it wasn't the biggest screen in the world.

Ah, happy days, Incy Wincy Quincy, Spider Mortician, private joke, but I was crying with laughter...

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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 3:20 PM

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Don't forget your 3 D sunglasses
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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 6:32 PM

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I watched my bloody valantine in 3d on blu-ray last night,And after an hour i went back to watching the 2d version.I felt strange my eyes were feeling blured lol,Like i had a good session with mr jd lol,It will be intresting to see what happens to 3d.But im not sure how it will pan out.I will go to the pictures on the next 3d film showing to see how it looks on a massive screen.Buy the way my bloody valentine.Oh dear not great but the 7.1 dts-hd sound was a revelation.And yes the laruel and hardy box sets are far better it is what makes them classics.And tinkering with making them in colour was bad.It takes away the reason to watch them.(sorry if there are any spelling mistakes).

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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 7:26 PM

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The My Bloody Valentine disc uses the old 'coloured lenses' system, which is not comparable to the latest cinema systems, nor the forthcoming 3D televisions.    But wearing 3D glasses, whether cardboard with coloured cellophane, or high-tech LCD shutters ones, does get pretty fatiguing.

I would have thought it difficult/impossible to make 3D versions of non-3D films, as the process involves taking two slightly different angles of the same scene - if you look at a 3D image without glasses, you'll see two slightly overlapping pictures.    Surely if they try to do this with non-3D films it will be a distortion?

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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 7:51 PM

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Yes electroman,you are right,I went to the sony/sky 3d demo this year and it was better,But there was still leakage when you had glasses on(light around the room).I think it would be good to have complete darkness when you view the new 3d.glasses still are not the way forward,but then thats just my opinion.some cool head gear that completly blacks out when you put it on would be great.we will just have to see what happens whens its out there.Im looking forward to doing demos with customers..........................Now then just pop these glasses on for me lol..................
grant hill
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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 8:19 PM

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I'll be impressed when they finally figure out how to get some sort of 3D effect in an actual screen (without the use of any glasses or headware) Sittting in my house in stupid glasses seems pretty bizarre to me. Then again if TV wasn't invented and someone told you about the idea you'd probably wet yourself with laughter. Who knows it might work but I can't see it being too popular as long as you are supposed to be wearing some sort of freaky specsGeeked Also when the new sets come out you can guarantee they'll cost a fortune and the first models will probably be obsolete a few months into owning them. When can we expect the first models to hit the UK market anyway?

Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 9:30 PM

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Thanks for all the opinion.


Yeah, I'm far from convinced I want to see films in 3D or how much better it can make the experience, and then there's the glasses. But having said that I haven't experienced it, (maybe I should go to one of the new 3D films at the pictures). A lot of people said that BlueRay and HD DVD were unneeded upgrades to DVD, but eventually they've taken off.


Having waited all this time to go hi-def though, I'm worried about suddenly finding that I'm one step behind again, and missing out on the best experiences. Having said that if I want to wait for 3D kit it would proably mean waiting a really long time to upgrade my CRT until the 3D technology is commonplace - I'm not spending a fortune on rubbish early kit.


I think the new displays will do 2D as well, and I wouldn't imagine we'll get to a situation where all TV or films are 3D, and we're wearing glasses all the time. I think it'll be just special programmes and films probably.


I have read that Panasonic willl be doing displays and players next year. Also that a company has created a computational process to give films a convincing 3D effect, and are looking to make 3D a number of 2D films such as Star Wars and a few other similar action blockbusters.

Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 10:01 PM

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Andrew Everard:
I shudder at the thought of old movies being 3D'd – it's just as horrendous a thought as that attempt a few years back to 'colorise' black and white movies.


I couldn't agree more! Just the thought of it makes me angry.  Angry

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Posted on Nov 03, 2009, 11:31 PM

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i agree im gonna wait till the new year to see what happens with the 3d standard and the price of the panels will probably try and catch the panasonic road show to. even if it is just to discount geting one but i wont buy another pannel for abit.
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