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well after all of your answers (to date) I am actually going to conclude that the best tv that money can currently buy is ( would have been a kuro but they is dead)  a Philips P9664 tv. a b&o and leowe are seriously good tv's but

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, so my conclusion is that actually the philips is the winner. not by the cost directly but by what you should, would have to pay to in return get a clearly outstanding tv.(hope that makes sense) 

p.s. it was my question so that makes it my final decision ha ha

the_lhc:

Whoa, hang on Mr U-Turn!  We've all been talking about picture quality, you even said you were stunned by the pictures, we're not talking about the best built TV, just the one that gives the best picture (Which is why things like electrostatic speakers are an irrelevance.).

I never said B&O has the best picture quality in the market....I said B&O makes the best built TVs. The picture quality is stunning nevertheless..................dynamic settings or not (the dynamic settings don't make the picture sharp, do they?). Not the best, but superb. Where's the U-turn about it? Have you seen the B&O yourself before judging it?

You really seem to be a very angry person! Most of your posts in reply to mine has only been attacking me.

I have a Pioneer Kuro and I've watched B&O TVs, a friend of mine has one. I wouldn't spend 9k pounds in a tv set, but I have to say it has a great picture quality and it has really nice gimmicks, like tv info on the frame. It's really nice. Not sure if it is better than the Kuro because I didn't compare them side by side. The problem here is that no one does reviews of these premium tvs like B&O and Loewe. They should be included in reviews at What HiFi :)

What about if a 9 grand tv was only £4,000? Would you guys buy it because of picture quality alone? Or would you go for a Kuro which doesn't have the style of B&O and is half the price?

I already have mine, and I must say I am extremelly happy. Too bad it doesn't have the new 3D technology. I'm almost sure that in 2010 we will see some panels beating Kuro's performance. Not sure why they haven't already to be honest. Maybe it's not worth it. That's why Pioneer gave up as well. Not £€$worth$€£ it :p Too expensive for most consumers to buy.

Just my opinion :)

If I had all the money in the world (and space) I would buy a Pioneer 60 inch TV, either LX6090 or KRP-600.

Yes, I still believe these are the best TV money can buy, no matter the price!

There is no doubt that B&O (don't know about Loewe) has better sound than other TV's. Their latest BeoVision 8-40 has exceptional sound for a TV. At the same time B&O has developed a new 100Hz system which should be able to compete with Sony.

But overall, I would still go for a separate speaker system, and you still can't get a better picture than the Kuro in my opinion.

whit3kr0w:

I have a Pioneer Kuro and I've watched B&O TVs, a friend of mine has one. I wouldn't spend 9k pounds in a tv set, but I have to say it has a great picture quality and it has really nice gimmicks, like tv info on the frame. It's really nice. Not sure if it is better than the Kuro because I didn't compare them side by side. The problem here is that no one does reviews of these premium tvs like B&O and Loewe. They should be included in reviews at What HiFi :)

What about if a 9 grand tv was only £4,000? Would you guys buy it because of picture quality alone? Or would you go for a Kuro which doesn't have the style of B&O and is half the price?

I already have mine, and I must say I am extremelly happy. Too bad it doesn't have the new 3D technology. I'm almost sure that in 2010 we will see some panels beating Kuro's performance. Not sure why they haven't already to be honest. Maybe it's not worth it. That's why Pioneer gave up as well. Not £€$worth$€£ it :p Too expensive for most consumers to buy.

 

Just my opinion :)

Interesting point. I often wonder why pioneer just didn't increase the price of their tvs and produce them in smaller numbers. Surely there must have been a margin there somewhere? 

Tonestar1:

Interesting point. I often wonder why pioneer just didn't increase the price of their tvs and produce them in smaller numbers. Surely there must have been a margin there somewhere? 

I think the problem was with the mindset of Pioneer. This is a company producing electronic products for the masses, so it was always price conscious & wanted to shift volumes. B&O, right from the outset, has made only premium products, not for the masses.

If only Pioneer had evolved the Kuro as a luxury brand (like what Toyota does with Lexus, or Volkawagen with Audi)......it may have been still producing TVs.

gel:

For me it's:

the ulimate lcd the philips ambilight vs the ultimate plasma the pioneer kuro.

and the winner is down to personal taste.

Only home testing for a week could you pick out your personal favourite.

I had both side by side in a dealer's studio cinema and was able to play the same Blue-Ray and DVD test videos. Both my wife and myself chose Philips 46PFL9740. The prices were very similar. Are we discussing the same Philips ?

hnery:

I had both side by side in a dealer's studio cinema and was able to play the same Blue-Ray and DVD test videos. Both my wife and myself chose Philips 46PFL9740. The prices were very similar. Are we discussing the same Philips ?

Well, as always it all comes down to personal taste. If you prefer an artifically enhanced picture with oversaturated colours and contrast levels blown out of proportions, that makes everything look like Disney channel, then Philips 46PFL9740 is the perfect telly for you.

If you rather prefer a natural picture that is true to the source, then the Pioneer's beats it hands down!

TKratz:

hnery:

I had both side by side in a dealer's studio cinema and was able to play the same Blue-Ray and DVD test videos. Both my wife and myself chose Philips 46PFL9740. The prices were very similar. Are we discussing the same Philips ?

Well, as always it all comes down to personal taste. If you prefer an artifically enhanced picture with oversaturated colours and contrast levels blown out of proportions, that makes everything look like Disney channel, then Philips 46PFL9740 is the perfect telly for you.

If you rather prefer a natural picture that is true to the source, then the Pioneer's beats it hands down!

Popped into Holburn Hifi in Aberdeen this morning to pick up a 5 metre long fibre optic cable to hook up my SkyHD box to the surround sound.  They had an incredible Loewe setup.  72-inch or thereabouts LED TV, flat panel speakers, slimline surround sound processor, subwoofer, flat panel rear speakers.  Cost is more than a half decent new car! 

IMHO a bit much too spend to watch Corrie, re-runs of the Simpsons, etc. etc. ad nauseum on so-called HD channels and /or badly transcribed BuRays even!!