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Last post Jul 28, 2009, 11:49 PM by seasiders rock. (126 replies)
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Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 1:56 AM

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The chunkys nice idc - a much fuller sound than the chord crimson. Nice bass.
I'd like to hear an ASR emitter II.

Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 2:32 AM

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idc:

The review for the Gotham interconnect is a cracker! I particularly liked the comment about directionality being shown by use of a marker pen! The comments on the review are still positive about the cable and the first one points out that the review calls the Gotham a significant improvement over a freebie cable. Overall the review is a classic example of read what is said and ignore the stars awarded. So my budget is £20, preferrably less and I have heard enough cables so as to be unconvinced, to my ear that they make much of a difference. But I do want a cable that is clearly better made than the rubbish, skinny, plasticy one out the box. Then the Gotham seems ideal.


My next interconnect budget is up to £30 and I need a 50cm one. So, having found peer reviews to be very accurate before, I am looking at the SHB or Chunky or see if I get lucky with second hand off ebay. My present interconnect, a no brand, odd looking grey thing is presently part of a setup that provides me with stunning SQ. (EDIT - before you ask, I want to change them because they are way too long and I have to loop them round all sorts to get them to fit)


 

Then again IIRC there were lots of good words bandied around for Cambridge Audio's Pacific IC's and they were about £20 when I got some. Better than the freebies of course: better than a half firing set of Chords, no chance; worth the money, yep probably; how many stars? more than 2 I'll wager Stick out tongue

See me ride out of the sunset, On your colour TV screen
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Cyrus CD6SE / Super High Breed / Kandy K2 / SHB / Spendor S6e / Grado SR80 / Sony TC-KE400S

Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 5:29 PM

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Your Lordship. How chunky is a Chunky? I need it to almost bend back on itself and one end will be in my very light DAC.


SteveR. My mate, who I helped to sort out his ancient hifi/av has a set of Pacific interconnects. My job was to dust and clean and once that was done the Pacifics still looked brand new, their connectors shining bright with no sign of oxidisation at all and the cable sheething totally unmarked. A QED interconnect of the same vintage looked ancient, its sheething was white but had yellowed and it needed a very good clean about the contacts.


Last week I moved my TV for the first time in a while to have a new shelf fitted. I bought Cambridge scarts about 10 years ago and I noticed once I had given them a dust, again no oxidisation on the connectors.


Both interconnect and Scart could be cleaned up and appear brand new. A good reason to recommend Cambridge there.


 


 

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 1:41 PM

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idc:

Your Lordship. How chunky is a Chunky? I need it to almost bend back on itself and one end will be in my very light DAC.

idc, I don't think the chunky's the one for you as, I tried one on my Gram Amp and it was no use as the GA is too light. I ended up using my chord chameleon on the GA and use the chunky between my amp and DVD.

  

Roksan Caspian Integrated Amplifier / Arcam DV135 / Pro-Ject 2Xperience / Spendor A6 / Graham Slee Gram Amp 2SE / Project HeadBox / Firestone Fubar II / Sennheiser HD555 / Atlas Voyager I/C's / Chord Epic Super Twin

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 2:12 PM

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SHB it is then, thanks Spacehopper.

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 6:04 PM

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icehockeyboy:

Ive had both types of Silver High Breeds, the Synergy One, and Two, they are both absolutely amazing ic's for really silly low prices.

Ive had some high end ic's in my system, Black Rhodium Oratorios, (£600)   and Chord Anthem, (£330)   and the SHB stuff is up there with them soundwise!

I also have the 10 awg speaker cable for them too, absolutely stunning, and easily on par with the £130 a metre stuff I had a while back. 

Dont hesitate, try them, money back guarantee, so how can you lose? 



Well, after a week or so - these Silver High Breeds are keepers. Stunning resolution and treble.

I'm going to try the speaker cable next.

No affiliation by the way, just a great bargain.
Cyrus 8SE, MF A3.5 amp, ATC SCM11s and Soundstyle XS-122 stands, Van den Hul Integration interconnect, 512 strand copper speaker cable, Tacima CS929 and Tacima shielded mains cables.

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 6:39 PM

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Just out of interest, what comparison have you made Graham?
Cyrus 8vs2, Monitor BR2, Little Dot MKIII, Cyrus DVD6, Beresford TC-7520 (op-LM4562NA & Wolfson WM8716), Vandamme cable, SHB & Atlas equator MkII, TNT FleXy Table, Tacima CS929, Clearer Audio mains, Partington trophy.

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 6:44 PM

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idc:

Your Lordship. How chunky is a Chunky? I need it to almost bend back on itself and one end will be in my very light DAC.



Its not THAT chunky... It'll bend back on itself but it does push my beresford about. Nice sound though.
I'd like to hear an ASR emitter II.

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 7:07 PM

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I received the synergy 2IC's today, all of £23 for the short 0.5m version which is fine for connecting my CDP to amp on the shelf below it. The current IC's are Chord Cobra II about 1m length I think, which bear in mind are due to go back to Chord because one of the plugs is quite a loose fit on all possible four female sockets, and was also slightly lose on my old NAD system. I think its responsible for a veiling in that channel which causes the soundtage to shift slightly, though a bit of twisting the cable does improve things. I also have another pair of cobra II's where one of the cables has failed completely, but in fairness to Chord they have told me to send both back and they will be repaired FOC...anyway back to the Synergys.

My first impression out of the packet was that they are obviously home made, but its what is in them and not what they look like that counts. The terminals are cambridge audio tight, i.e. almost impossible to fit at first, but at least you know the grounding will be good. I played a couple of discs I know well, by Keb 'Mo and Mark Knopfler. On both the synergys are very similar to the Cobra's, I am having to concentrate quite hard to notice any really significant differences, the effects are really quite subtle. The bass seems a little stronger, maybe better controlled in that its more tuneful, but not massively so, and the rest of the frequency range is possibly dryer, less airy than the Chords. That said on REM's greatest hits the hi-hat is more noticeable than I recall, and certainly overall detail is comparable. To my ears, they sound a little less authorative then the Cobras, but lose nothing in timing.

Overall impressive certainly for £20 odd as they are certainly comparable to the more expensive Chords, and maybe they will burn in maybe they won't, only ears will tell. In summary I have found them lighter, leaner slightly bright sounding, with a smaller less obvious soundstage, so no super bargain status for my system at least.One thing I did notice is one lead wouldnt work initially, and I had to twist the (loose) connections (and both end are loose on the one cable, the other is nice and tight)

I am expecting the speaker cable to arrive later in the week, and will be comparing it to the cheapest QED wire that I have had for about 8 years now, so might be a more interesting opportunity for improvement.

 

 

 

See me ride out of the sunset, On your colour TV screen
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Cyrus CD6SE / Super High Breed / Kandy K2 / SHB / Spendor S6e / Grado SR80 / Sony TC-KE400S

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 7:37 PM

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idc:

Your Lordship. How chunky is a Chunky? I need it to almost bend back on itself and one end will be in my very light DAC.


SteveR. My mate, who I helped to sort out his ancient hifi/av has a set of Pacific interconnects. My job was to dust and clean and once that was done the Pacifics still looked brand new, their connectors shining bright with no sign of oxidisation at all and the cable sheething totally unmarked. A QED interconnect of the same vintage looked ancient, its sheething was white but had yellowed and it needed a very good clean about the contacts.


Last week I moved my TV for the first time in a while to have a new shelf fitted. I bought Cambridge scarts about 10 years ago and I noticed once I had given them a dust, again no oxidisation on the connectors.


Both interconnect and Scart could be cleaned up and appear brand new. A good reason to recommend Cambridge there.


 


 

as indeed are the Cobras I have got, then gold doesnt oxidise so they should look new and shiny. It still doesnt make the CA's sound better than a £20 cable....

See me ride out of the sunset, On your colour TV screen
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Cyrus CD6SE / Super High Breed / Kandy K2 / SHB / Spendor S6e / Grado SR80 / Sony TC-KE400S

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 8:28 PM

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Nice review of the SHBs SteveR. Not so sure about the home made look, you say one cable did not work initially and loose contacts though. The more I read, especially with your experiences with faulty cables the more I think that build quality, especially of the contacts is more important than make. On that build quality issue, re the Cambridge cables, the comparison was with the QED which, when cleaned, the contacts turn the cloth black and the Pacifics that had somehow not attracted any muck at all.

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 8:41 PM

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Let me clarify, the plugs appear to be a two part outer, where the pin end screws into the barrel. This is the bit that was loose, not the fit of the plug onto the terminals of the CDP or amp. However, that is precisely the problem I have with the Cobra's: they are loose fitting onto the unit terminals, i.e. they dont have a very tight grip.

OK a couple of more hours in, and more CD's and they do sound pretty good with the Stereophonics Just enough Education, they are certainly brighter than the Cobras, they've woken up the Spendors tweeters for sure. Am spinning U2 Joshua Tree and its easy to follow each instrument line, in particular the volume of the bass guitar in With or Without You is constant, whereas previoulsy I have always found that some muddiness or room resonance has highlighted one of the notes (usually the A and the B).

See me ride out of the sunset, On your colour TV screen
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Cyrus CD6SE / Super High Breed / Kandy K2 / SHB / Spendor S6e / Grado SR80 / Sony TC-KE400S

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 9:36 PM

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I've received today my second pair of SHB, to connect the DAC. This time I'm comparing it against a QED qunex 3 (around £40), after having replaced a pair of Nordost Blue Heaven between cd and amp. I'm using spotify connected to a V-DAC through the Airport Express and listening to some well known album: the result is pretty good. The SHB seems to be less bright than the QED, but still "open", the bass is definitely tighter and firmer. Next week I'll receive a Van Den Hul integration hybrid, and I'm curious to compare it with the SHB (honestly I never heard a VDH)!
Roksan K2 Amp, Roksan K2 CDP, Epos m16i, Silver High Breed, Nordost 2Flat, ATH-AD700, V-Dac, Airport Express

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 9:50 PM

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Also got my SHB Synergy 2s - pretty impressed from a short demo! Initial impressions are though, bound to change :) still need to compare against the CSP, but am likely to keep the SHB even if CSP turns out better.

ALAC via Foobar // CA DacMagic // Kandy K2 // Spendor A5 // SHB Coherence // Chord Odyssey2 // Grado SR60i // Clearer Audio Alpha mains // Tacima CS929

Posted on Jul 06, 2009, 9:51 PM

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Brisk:
Just out of interest, what comparison have you made Graham?


I did A/B from source to amp with Atlas Voyager, which was the best sounding cable I've had IMHO. I've had esoteric, Audioquest, Atlas Equator and Chord Anthem (Mark 1) over the years.

This just suits my system fine. Wink
Cyrus 8SE, MF A3.5 amp, ATC SCM11s and Soundstyle XS-122 stands, Van den Hul Integration interconnect, 512 strand copper speaker cable, Tacima CS929 and Tacima shielded mains cables.
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