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Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

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Posted on Jun 27, 2009, 9:11 PM

Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

Its time to upgrade the speakers,....I am drawing up a short list to demo and don't want to exclude any potential gems...

Speakers will prob be either bookshelf/standmounts or small'ish floor standers...would like some bass but not overwhelmed by big floorstanders.

Any recommendations appreciated based on experiences.

Cheers
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Posted on Jun 27, 2009, 9:22 PM

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Re: Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

I've just changed from B&W 601s to Spendor A5s which are relatively small.  I am very pleased with them.  More detail, more bass, but well controlled.  I think they are fairly neutral sounding.  I also tried the Spendor SA1s which were very revealing, but just didn't have enough bass.

 I wasn't quite sure what to expect, but I am loving the sound at the moment and I am spending most of the time re-listening to my music collection!

I did also try PMC FB1I which were very good.

 Mark

Naim XS, Flatcap 2X, Spendor A5, DACMagic, Sonos

Posted on Jun 27, 2009, 9:47 PM

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Re: Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

I think it's difficult to go wrong with that list. Add ATC as well and consider the PMC GB1i as opposed to the bigger brother, the FB1i. Think Spendor A5 = PMC GB1i, Spendor A6 = PMC FB1i.

What's the budget and what do you like to hear? Is it coloured and musical sound, absolute neutrality and detail, politeness, smoothness, brightness?
Musical Fidelity X-Ray v8 → AVI S2000MP → Quad 405 Netaudio MK3 Dual Mono (Burr-Brown OPA627) → Spendor SA1 →

Posted on Jun 27, 2009, 10:14 PM

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Budget is up to £1500.. speaker characteristics are: punchy, precise, but not too crisp/edgy(treble), articulate, smooth'ish, good bass-but not boomy/muddy,good sound stage, more neutral than coloured, but dynamic - in the room - excitement !
Naim CD5X-NAC122X-NAP150X-FCX2-NACA5-Stageline S-Michell Focus One-RB250-Goldring Eroica-Dynaudio Focus 110
Panasonic TH-50PX70B + DMR-EX87 - Sony PS3 250GB -Denon AVR-3808 - Audio-Pro Image 44 7.1 system - Ixos XHT458 HDMI - QED silver



Posted on Jun 27, 2009, 10:25 PM

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Re: Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

Well, your list of sonic characteristics sounds like mine when I bought the Spendor SA1. A lot of people think the bass is too light on them but I don't find that at all, personal preference. They're smooth, detailed, neutral, have superb treble without being bright or harsh, and they time like you wouldn't believe. Definitely give them a try.

If the SA1 doesn't quite scratch the itch, try the A5. Tiny floorstanders that pack a punch indeed! I think the A6 enters the realm of floorstanders that really beg for lots of driving current to get the bass right, looks like you might well have enough. The Arcam A38 certainly didn't drive them well enough.

Might be worth taking a look at the Proac Response D2. They're quite large stand mounters but seem to pair well with Naim from the audition that I had. I don't really like floorstanders as I find them too slow and ploddy so all of my suggestions should consider this fact!
Musical Fidelity X-Ray v8 → AVI S2000MP → Quad 405 Netaudio MK3 Dual Mono (Burr-Brown OPA627) → Spendor SA1 →

Posted on Jun 28, 2009, 12:34 AM

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JoshuaE:
Budget is up to £1500.. speaker characteristics are: punchy, precise, but not too crisp/edgy(treble), articulate, smooth'ish, good bass-but not boomy/muddy,good sound stage, more neutral than coloured, but dynamic - in the room - excitement !

 

at that budget - atc scm19.  neutral, natural, detailed, dynamic, endless clarity, great bass, easy to position.  the 19's have it all, in fact they only have one weakness - they won't flatter poor sources or recordings.  and they're a bit uninspiring to look at - so two weaknesses!  but, my god, feed them something nice and they blow everything else at the price out the water.  imo and all that....

mac mini + dacmagic, moon i3-rs, atc scm 19, atlas questor, atlas hyper 3.0, atacama avi, atacama hms2

i also have a chord company superscreen powercable.
but mainly cos it looks nice.
it doesn't make me a bad person.

Posted on Jun 28, 2009, 1:02 AM

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Re: Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

I would suggest a listen to the Usher Be-718's , stand mount, great bass, not harsh. Plenty of reviews on the net. I think they fit into your price range.

Posted on Jun 29, 2009, 12:17 PM

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Re: Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

JoshuaE:
Its time to upgrade the speakers,....I am drawing up a short list to demo and don't want to exclude any potential gems... Speakers will prob be either bookshelf/standmounts or small'ish floor standers...would like some bass but not overwhelmed by big floorstanders. Any recommendations appreciated based on experiences. Cheers
As you have the 122x/150x/Flatcap, you're in a very good position to be looking at this price point. As mentioned, the main one to try would be the ATC SCM11's or 19's, as they seem to fit your explanation of what you're after very well. The 150x will drive them extremely well too. Other options would be the Spendor SA1, but in comparison these will come across a little lightweight in the bass, but will probably have the sort of midrange and treble you're after. The KEF XQ20's are another nicely balanced speaker, that being front ported aren't too fussy about placement, possessing a nicely balanced bass for their size. They have a nice clear midrange, and the treble is detailed without being bright, which many seem to incorrectly think. The Proac Response D1 is a fantastic little speaker that can produce a lovely 3 dimensional image when driven properly, but some may feel their decent bass response is a little light (like the SA1) when compared to other slightly larger competition.


If you're willing to throw a little more into the budget pot, there are a couple of more options available to you, in the shape of ex-demo/B stock alternatives. One I can't mention on the forums, but the other is the KEF 201/2, which can be had for about £1800 (instead of £3,500). This would be more of a longer term purchase as it they would grow with the system.


Obviously as the amp/speaker is THE most important match in the system, the usual auditioning with your amplification is recommended.


 

David
Frank Harvey Hi-Fi Ltd - now on Facebook (search Frank Harvey Hi-Fi)

Posted on Jun 29, 2009, 12:28 PM

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Put Kudos on the list too. By all accounts they go well with naim.
Unison Research Unico CDE/Audio Analogue Maestro Settanta/Kudos C2 and ProAc Tablette Reference 8 Sigs. Nordost, Clearer Audio, Crystal Cable and Chord cables. And a MacBook Air for streaming. And a plasma. And a DVD player.

Posted on Jun 29, 2009, 2:44 PM

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Re: Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

JoshuaE:
Budget is up to £1500.. speaker characteristics are: punchy, precise, but not too crisp/edgy(treble), articulate, smooth'ish, good bass-but not boomy/muddy,good sound stage, more neutral than coloured, but dynamic - in the room - excitement !


I recently upgraded to Spendor A5s and I think they fit your description to the tee, as well as fit your budget (they are £1495 I think). The more I listen to them the more i like them! Give them a listen. 

ALAC via Foobar // CA DacMagic // Kandy K2 // Spendor A5 // SHB Coherence // Chord Odyssey2 // Grado SR60i // Clearer Audio Alpha mains // Tacima CS929

Posted on Jun 29, 2009, 9:58 PM

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Re: Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

Thanks for everyones' suggestions...it has helped narrow down a short-list..

Will plan to listen to the following:

Spendor A3 & A5

PMC FB1i & GB1i

ATC SCM 11 & 19

Kudos and Guru also have been recommended...

Once again many thanks.

BR
Naim CD5X-NAC122X-NAP150X-FCX2-NACA5-Stageline S-Michell Focus One-RB250-Goldring Eroica-Dynaudio Focus 110
Panasonic TH-50PX70B + DMR-EX87 - Sony PS3 250GB -Denon AVR-3808 - Audio-Pro Image 44 7.1 system - Ixos XHT458 HDMI - QED silver



Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 10:13 AM

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So- how did you get on with your listening? Any decisions made yet?
PMC OB1's Tri Amped by 2x Rotel RMB 1075 Power Amps, Tom Evans Pre-Amp, Rega P25 with Dynavector 10xii, Pioneer PDS505 Precision, QED GEnesis Speaker Cable, Chord & Black Rhodium Interconnects

Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 11:36 AM

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Re: Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

Ya do know Naims new speakers are gonna be released this year??? Check them out, look amazing too ...


http://www.naim-audio.com/products/ovator.html
Naim CD5x CDP
Naim Nait 5i-2 Amp
Naim Ariva Speakers

With all Naim interconnects and speaker cable :-)

Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 11:52 AM

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Re: Speakers for Naim system - Proac, PMC, Spendor, Neat...or what..?

Kiwi_Jonno:
Ya do know Naims new speakers are gonna be released this year??? Check them out, look amazing too ...


http://www.naim-audio.com/products/ovator.html

Yes but they are going to be £6k and Joshua wants to spend £1.5k

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Posted on Jul 04, 2009, 12:43 PM

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chebby:

Kiwi_Jonno:
Ya do know Naims new speakers are gonna be released this year??? Check them out, look amazing too ...


http://www.naim-audio.com/products/ovator.html

Yes but they are going to be £6k and Joshua wants to spend £1.5k



Yikes!!! So the speakers must be way better then the Alaes? Next down from Naim's reference?
Naim CD5x CDP
Naim Nait 5i-2 Amp
Naim Ariva Speakers

With all Naim interconnects and speaker cable :-)
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