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the_lhc:

bigboss:

brettweir:

so money talks. i dunno, with b&o and leowe your paying for the name and design. reviews don't set the world alight. your paying for the prestige not necessarily the picture. maybe kuro's were the best

Even I used to think that way until a couple of months ago when I went to Selfridges (where else?) to look at Loewe & B&O. I was stunned......the pictures were beautiful, pin sharp & the colours were glorious. Every component that goes into making these TVs are of a very high standard,

And where (or rather who) do B&O get their display panels from? They probably looked good because they've been set up properly, unlike most cheaper retailers who don't bother

& these TVs are built to last. Coupled with industry leading customer service, they have built a very strong reputation. Ofcourse, you pay a premium for a premium product. Think of it as a Rolex or an Omega, & the other mainstream brands like a Casio & Timex........you get the picture, right?

Rolex aren't particularly great timekeepers, my missus has a Rolex, she went to a dealer once to get it serviced because it kept losing time, the dealer jokingly asked if it was a fake (it is) and then said he knew it wasn't because if it was a fake it'd probably have a Timex movement in it, which, in his opinion, was more accurate than the Rolex movement was...

Andrew Everard:

the_lhc:

And where (or rather who) do B&O get their display panels from?

Samsung in the case of the LCDs, Panasonic for the plasmas.

Exactly, so that component is, presumably, no more "high quality" than the best panels that Samsung and Panasonic put in their own screens?

And where (or rather from whom) does the company get all its picture-processing technology?

It doesn't: it develops it in house, as well as building all the other components, major and minor, machining and anodising all that metal, offering unparalleled aftersales service...

Aftersales service and anodised metal don't make the picture quality any better, I'll give you the in house development of the picture processing but then I was rather under the impression that that's what the likes of Sony do and Pioneer did?

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Gerrardasnails:

the_lhc:

Rolex aren't particularly great timekeepers, my missus has a Rolex, she went to a dealer once to get it serviced because it kept losing time, the dealer jokingly asked if it was a fake (it is) and then said he knew it wasn't because if it was a fake it'd probably have a Timex movement in it, which, in his opinion, was more accurate than the Rolex movement was...

That is ridiculous. I wear a Breitling, which like Rolex, HAVE to adhere to very strict timekeeping checks from Switzerland. Whichever dealer said that either does not stock "proper" watches or was having a laugh.

Quite possibly, I'm just repeating third-hand information from an unreliable source as if it's fact, like most people round here seem to do...

the_lhc:

Gerrardasnails:

the_lhc:

Rolex aren't particularly great timekeepers, my missus has a Rolex, she went to a dealer once to get it serviced because it kept losing time, the dealer jokingly asked if it was a fake (it is) and then said he knew it wasn't because if it was a fake it'd probably have a Timex movement in it, which, in his opinion, was more accurate than the Rolex movement was...

That is ridiculous. I wear a Breitling, which like Rolex, HAVE to adhere to very strict timekeeping checks from Switzerland. Whichever dealer said that either does not stock "proper" watches or was having a laugh.

Quite possibly, I'm just repeating third-hand information from an unreliable source as if it's fact, like most people round here seem to do...

Then you should aspire to more.

Did this fake rolex have a rolex movement in then? He really should have known his stuff i gess, but whatever.

Oh and "Heh heh. Yeah, Beavis, that was, like, cool heh heh..."

al7478:

the_lhc:

Gerrardasnails:

the_lhc:

Rolex aren't particularly great timekeepers, my missus has a Rolex, she went to a dealer once to get it serviced because it kept losing time, the dealer jokingly asked if it was a fake (it is) and then said he knew it wasn't because if it was a fake it'd probably have a Timex movement in it, which, in his opinion, was more accurate than the Rolex movement was...

That is ridiculous. I wear a Breitling, which like Rolex, HAVE to adhere to very strict timekeeping checks from Switzerland. Whichever dealer said that either does not stock "proper" watches or was having a laugh.

Quite possibly, I'm just repeating third-hand information from an unreliable source as if it's fact, like most people round here seem to do...

Then you should aspire to more.

I was humourously making the point that I could only repeat what my missus told me (and I have no reason to doubt her). I would say though that we've had numerous problems with her Rolex (which is a real one incidentally) over the years, I had it sent away to be serviced (by Rolex) earlier this year, at no little cost (which I wish I'd spent on some speakers to be honest!), it came back 12 WEEKS later and three weeks later it stopped again and had to be sent back, for another 5 weeks, for whatever it was they forgot to do the first time.

Oh and "Heh heh. Yeah, Beavis, that was, like, cool heh heh..."

It was cool, I made that head myself, it's lifesize and to scale (which means it's actually much bigger than lifesize).

wait for the reviews i think its the Samsung UE46B8000 vs Philips 47PFL9664

dont know who is gonna come ontop this should be one of the best sets

the_lhc:

Aftersales service and anodised metal don't make the picture quality any better, I'll give you the in house development of the picture processing but then I was rather under the impression that that's what the likes of Sony do and Pioneer did?

The OP asked 'what is the best tv money can buy', not 'which TV has the best picture money can buy'...

For me it's:

the ulimate lcd the philips ambilight vs the ultimate plasma the pioneer kuro.

and the winner is down to personal taste.

Only home testing for a week could you pick out your personal favourite.

Andrew Everard:

the_lhc:

Aftersales service and anodised metal don't make the picture quality any better, I'll give you the in house development of the picture processing but then I was rather under the impression that that's what the likes of Sony do and Pioneer did?

The OP asked 'what is the best tv money can buy', not 'which TV has the best picture money can buy'...

the_lhc:

al7478:

the_lhc:

Gerrardasnails:

the_lhc:

Rolex aren't particularly great timekeepers, my missus has a Rolex, she went to a dealer once to get it serviced because it kept losing time, the dealer jokingly asked if it was a fake (it is) and then said he knew it wasn't because if it was a fake it'd probably have a Timex movement in it, which, in his opinion, was more accurate than the Rolex movement was...

That is ridiculous. I wear a Breitling, which like Rolex, HAVE to adhere to very strict timekeeping checks from Switzerland. Whichever dealer said that either does not stock "proper" watches or was having a laugh.

Quite possibly, I'm just repeating third-hand information from an unreliable source as if it's fact, like most people round here seem to do...

Then you should aspire to more.

I was humourously making the point...

Yes, thanks for spelling that out for me.

That watch has gone from fake to real in not time.

No, that's just the most expensive. Allegedly.

And even that's only the most expensive LCD – the 103in B&O plasma is even pricier. No diamonds, though...