Out of interest though, I wanted to know what other Onkyo owners thought?
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I have the Onkyo 606 with Kef 2002.2 and you are spot on Garethwd.Pure and direct sound awful without the sub.Might as well be coming from next doors window through a toilet pan.Depending on the music,all channel stereo sounds good and wholesome,studiomix also is good for certain types, and last nights proms sounded pretty good on orchestra.
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