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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 9:23 AM

Pioneer A400X amp

I've heard this a well thought of amp. Anyone know how old they are and how much is a fair second hand price? I don't want to get one and it die on me a year later.
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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 9:32 AM

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Re: Pioneer A400X amp

dont buy the A-400X ... get the A-400 as it's a much better amp ... expect to pay between £80-£130 for a good one off ebay ... I highly recommend the A-400
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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 9:41 AM

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Re: Pioneer A400X amp

and if you can get your hands on a Pioneer A-400 GTE or an A-300R Precsion grab it! ... These are the modded versions by Tom Evans ... I have an A-400 and  have been in touch with him recently, and he no longer does the modifications


I am led to believe that the A300R precision is sonically better than the A400GTE even though it has slightly less power that the 400


I have been searching for some time now and have not found one

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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 7:28 PM

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Re: Pioneer A400X amp

dim_span:

and if you can get your hands on a Pioneer A-400 GTE or an A-300R Precsion grab it! ... These are the modded versions by Tom Evans ... I have an A-400 and  have been in touch with him recently, and he no longer does the modifications


I am led to believe that the A300R precision is sonically better than the A400GTE even though it has slightly less power that the 400


I have been searching for some time now and have not found one

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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 7:35 PM

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Re: Pioneer A400X amp

the one I am talking about is the A300r precision ... it is a modified standard A300r and was modified/tweaked by Tom Evans .... same as the A400 GTE .... it is a standard A400 that was modified


If you cannot find any of those, get the standard A-400 .... you wont be dissapointed ... price will be between £80-£130 for one in good condition and much better than the A400X

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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 7:40 PM

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Re: Andrew

Hey! ... if I missed something (just got back from Tesco) I'd be gutted! ... I have been searching for a Pioneer A-300x precision or an A-400 GTE for a long time
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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 7:42 PM

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Re: Andrew

Sorry, but there has been some abuse of such postings in the past, so have to be over-cautious.

If both parties indicate they're amenable, I will supply them with each other's email address

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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 8:04 PM

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Re: Andrew

I understand Andrew. Feel free to pass on my email address. Hope I can help!
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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 8:16 PM

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Re: Pioneer A400X amp

Gerrardasnails:
I've heard this a well thought of amp. Anyone know how old they are and how much is a fair second hand price? I don't want to get one and it die on me a year later.


I believe you can do better than the old Pioneer A400 for about the same money or a little more. Yes it's a classic but its design is 20 years old now. Look instead at top-rated amps of the last few years: Nad C352, Rotel RA-03, Marantz PM7001, etc. Something like the Rotel will offer much more punch and joie de vivre.
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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 10:01 PM

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Re: Andrew

dim_span:
Hey! ... if I missed something (just got back from Tesco) I'd be gutted! ... I have been searching for a Pioneer A-300x precision or an A-400 GTE for a long time

Hi mate. Ive said to Andrew that its OK to give you my email address!

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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 10:07 PM

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Re: Andrew

thanks!
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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 10:08 PM

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Re: Andrew

No problem. Hope you get some joy!
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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 10:55 PM

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Re: Pioneer A400X amp

gpi:
Gerrardasnails:
I've heard this a well thought of amp. Anyone know how old they are and how much is a fair second hand price? I don't want to get one and it die on me a year later.


I believe you can do better than the old Pioneer A400 for about the same money or a little more. Yes it's a classic but its design is 20 years old now. Look instead at top-rated amps of the last few years: Nad C352, Rotel RA-03, Marantz PM7001, etc. Something like the Rotel will offer much more punch and joie de vivre.


The Rotel is a good call but I'd rather have the A400 than either the NAD or the Marantz. The fact that the Pioneer is a 20 year old design means nothing. Amplifiers haven't really improved in that time, and nothing I've heard below the price of a Sugden Mystro sounds more 'right' and musical than the A400. The modern budget amp that does run it close is the Rega Brio 3 - another piece of kit that performs well outside of its price bracket.
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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 11:00 PM

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Re: Pioneer A400X amp

Done.
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Posted on Nov 07, 2009, 11:43 PM

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Re: Pioneer A400X amp

matthewpiano:
gpi:
Gerrardasnails:
I've heard this a well thought of amp. Anyone know how old they are and how much is a fair second hand price? I don't want to get one and it die on me a year later.


I believe you can do better than the old Pioneer A400 for about the same money or a little more. Yes it's a classic but its design is 20 years old now. Look instead at top-rated amps of the last few years: Nad C352, Rotel RA-03, Marantz PM7001, etc. Something like the Rotel will offer much more punch and joie de vivre.


The Rotel is a good call but I'd rather have the A400 than either the NAD or the Marantz. The fact that the Pioneer is a 20 year old design means nothing. Amplifiers haven't really improved in that time, and nothing I've heard below the price of a Sugden Mystro sounds more 'right' and musical than the A400. The modern budget amp that does run it close is the Rega Brio 3 - another piece of kit that performs well outside of its price bracket.


Fair enough but in terms of age, parts don't last forever and with old amps they are more susceptible to output stages failing. If the OP can find a good condition one that isn't too tired he'll be ok with the Pioneer. I have recently sold some Pioneer reference components: an M73 power amp, C73 control amp and PD73 CDP so I know it can be reliable, although I have also heard there are quite a few M73s around with one failed channel.
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